How do we turn our people on as Black Republicans?

[tony morgan]

It appears to me that overwhelmingly AA prefer the line/lies the Democrat party feeds them daily about victimhood and the boogie man republican party. In the midst of this lies us sandwich between two worlds often times rejected by both. So how do Black Republicans get rid of this (oreo) image?

[Martin Harkless]

Good question

[jack thomas]

Why not try to admit the racism in the GOP for a change..???..Black people and other minorities are not going to tolerate the racist actions of the GOP and as long as some republicans keep ignoring it , more Black people and other minorities will vote for democrats...Look at what the raicst GOP is saying about Colin Powell who only told the truth..I posted facts about GOP voter suppression and not one Black republican admitted those facts..That's the problem..It is not an oreo image..It is an oreo reality when Black republicans ignore the racism in the GOP...By the way , did you hear about this..??

 

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/09/cpac_welcomes_white_nationalists/

 

Do you and other Black republicans have the courage to deal with this..??

Also check out these people...Shaun Winkler , James Russell , Loy Mauch , Harry Berram , John Abarr , Billy Roper , Harriet Paletti , Brian Culpepper...etc

 

Remember you cannot get Black people to join the GOP if you don't confront these facts...Calling them lies only pushes you away from the truth and from Black people....Can you be honest about the GOP....??

 

 

 

[Martin Harkless]

Really dude, that's your non partisan source? salon?

[jack thomas]

Can you dispute the facts or are you going to whine again while ignoring those facts...damn man...grow up...

You also missed this....

Also check out these people...Shaun Winkler , James Russell , Loy Mauch , Harry Berram , John Abarr , Billy Roper , Harriet Paletti , Brian Culpepper...etc

Remember you cannot get Black people to join the GOP if you don't confront these facts...Calling them lies only pushes you away from the truth and from Black people....Can you be honest about the GOP....??

 
Martin Harkless said:

Really dude, that's your non partisan source? salon?

[tony morgan]

jack thomas said:

Why not try to admit the racism in the GOP for a change..???..Black people and other minorities are not going to tolerate the racist actions of the GOP and as long as some republicans keep ignoring it , more Black people and other minorities will vote for democrats...Look at what the raicst GOP is saying about Colin Powell who only told the truth..I posted facts about GOP voter suppression and not one Black republican admitted those facts..That's the problem..It is not an oreo image..It is an oreo reality when Black republicans ignore the racism in the GOP...By the way , did you hear about this..??

 

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/09/cpac_welcomes_white_nationalists/

 

Do you and other Black republicans have the courage to deal with this..??

Also check out these people...Shaun Winkler , James Russell , Loy Mauch , Harry Berram , John Abarr , Billy Roper , Harriet Paletti , Brian Culpepper...etc

 

Remember you cannot get Black people to join the GOP if you don't confront these facts...Calling them lies only pushes you away from the truth and from Black people....Can you be honest about the GOP....??

I will admit there is racism in the pub party that needs to be addressed honestly and forthrightly to encourage AA and other minorities to give the party a try. Equally you personally don’t know every democrat that is white to know if they aren’t just as racist as those you deem republican are do you? I’m quite sure the independents have racist also but the point is as far as I’m personally concerned I’m not going to allow any racist of any political party impede my progress simply because he/she is a racist. Far to much time has been spent by AA trying to climb over th mountain of racism instead of speaking to that mountain to be removed and you cast into the sea by the authority of your words given to you by GOD who deals with racist far better than we can.

I know about the people you mentioned and I’ll say this. I’d personally rather be with people that see me equal or better than them than someone who always has to be over me. Until the democratic party stop their racist attitudes towards AA you and I can talk till we die about who is and isn’t racist but all we would be doing is wasting time over a fool. I don’t make a racist my problem I let him know I got an answer.....

 

 

 

[jack thomas]

Hum...Interesting points however while there are racists in each political party the question you raise was basicially how can Black republicans shed the oreo image..My answer to that was one of facts and not wondering if each white democrat is more or less racist then each white republican..You mentioned that you know pf these people that I posted about earlier yet there intense racist attitudes don't seem to bother you...That's very disappointing being that you are trying in essence to bring more Black people in the GOP...You must realize that the voter suppression drive , the racist tea party , the white supremacists running for office as republicans , the overall disrespect to President Obama from republicans cannot be ignored or compared to whatever democrats are doing....Democrats have a Black man in the white house..The GOP has yet to find a serious Black republican ro eun for president..Democrats have the Congressional Black Caucas...The GOP has one member of congress that is Black and yet you call the democratic party as someone that has to be over you..??..The GOP tried to suppress the Black vote in not only this election but in the past 4 elections...Remember the thousands of Black voters that were denied the right to vote in Florida during the 2000 "stolelection"..??...I asked this question several times..How can the GOP try to suppress the Black vote and then expect Black people to vote for them...????..Black people that you will try to outreach will have the same if not more questions and examples of why they don't vote republican..Martin Luther King spoke of this in 1964 as did Jackie Robinson in 1964 as does Colin Powell and Micheal Steele today...Right now in the year 2012 , most of the racism is coming from the GOP..That is a coldblooded fact that is not up for debate....You said you have an answer for a racist..Well what answer do you have for racists in the GOP....??..and will they listen...and will Black people believe them...???
 
tony morgan said:

jack thomas said:

Why not try to admit the racism in the GOP for a change..???..Black people and other minorities are not going to tolerate the racist actions of the GOP and as long as some republicans keep ignoring it , more Black people and other minorities will vote for democrats...Look at what the raicst GOP is saying about Colin Powell who only told the truth..I posted facts about GOP voter suppression and not one Black republican admitted those facts..That's the problem..It is not an oreo image..It is an oreo reality when Black republicans ignore the racism in the GOP...By the way , did you hear about this..??

 

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/09/cpac_welcomes_white_nationalists/

 

Do you and other Black republicans have the courage to deal with this..??

Also check out these people...Shaun Winkler , James Russell , Loy Mauch , Harry Berram , John Abarr , Billy Roper , Harriet Paletti , Brian Culpepper...etc

 

Remember you cannot get Black people to join the GOP if you don't confront these facts...Calling them lies only pushes you away from the truth and from Black people....Can you be honest about the GOP....??

I will admit there is racism in the pub party that needs to be addressed honestly and forthrightly to encourage AA and other minorities to give the party a try. Equally you personally don’t know every democrat that is white to know if they aren’t just as racist as those you deem republican are do you? I’m quite sure the independents have racist also but the point is as far as I’m personally concerned I’m not going to allow any racist of any political party impede my progress simply because he/she is a racist. Far to much time has been spent by AA trying to climb over th mountain of racism instead of speaking to that mountain to be removed and you cast into the sea by the authority of your words given to you by GOD who deals with racist far better than we can.

I know about the people you mentioned and I’ll say this. I’d personally rather be with people that see me equal or better than them than someone who always has to be over me. Until the democratic party stop their racist attitudes towards AA you and I can talk till we die about who is and isn’t racist but all we would be doing is wasting time over a fool. I don’t make a racist my problem I let him know I got an answer.....

 

 

 

[tony morgan]

Let me reiterate my position again to you. I’ve learn long ago if we as a people wasted time singling out every racist of any political party we would collectively be where we are at right now, nowhere! What monetary reward would I get for singling out every racist republican you say exist? I mean is it really a profitable endeavor or is it the usual lip service by us? I admit to you there are racist republicans but not the numbers to prevent me or any other black person who desires to move ahead economically without someone claiming to redistribute my wealth especially if god didn’t tell that person to do so, why would I be stuck on stupid over some racist? Acknowledging a racist is giving audience to a fool something I want waste my time doing ever again unless it yields me monetary gain by legal actions. So we are right back to where we started how do black folks move pass that which we know exist in all parties stop placing our eggs in one basket and give the pubs the chance to put up or forever shut up? I’m not afraid to call out any white republican racist I just do not wish to waster my time on one that’s all. We sadly as Black folks have wasted to much time on racist and little time with those who aren’t.

[jack thomas]

The GOP as a whole is racist...Not just a few white supremacists here and there but the message of most of the GOP...These white supremacists in the GOP is a PROBLEM...They do not hide their level of hate for YOU but you give them a pass...??? WTF..???.Remember , the GOP tried to suppress the very votes that your ancestors died for...Think about that for a minute...You actually expect Black people to "look the other way" and ignore this fact and "vote" for republicans...???..AND...If they can be so obvious about that , what else are they doing that we don't know about..??.To ignore that is plain stupid and to judge every aspect of life on a monetary desicion means that you are "for sale" and would sell out anyone to achieve "economic status"..Sure a few Black republicans  get paid , a few will get displayed on foxnews  , a few will be relagated to "rent-a-knee-grow" status to run for office to weakly show diversity ( Alan Keyes , Herman Cain ) , a few will get large sums of money for their churches but by and large Black republicans are ignored by the GOP...The truth of the matter is there are more successful Black people that are democrats then republicans..In business , in sports , in politics , and most important ...in respect from their own people...The GOP of today has shown the Black community exactly who they can't trust and that is not going to change until the RACISM STOPS...Didn't the GOP have the chance to show us what they were about in this past election..??..All they had to do was be honest , stop the racism , actually do something to help the country , and provide candidates that are not extreme nutcases....Instead they ( along with some Black republicans) promote this lie that MLK was a republican when in fact he never voterd republican , campaigned for JFK and LBJ and had very harsh words for the GOP...( to be fair MLK had harsh words for the democrats as well , especially the southern KKK rednecks )..The GOP tried to suppress the Black vote , they insulted women , they insulted Hispanics , they scared Jews , they scared young people , and most important - they has done little or nothing for the country in the last 13 years..In essence they had their chance and blew it..Now they must EARN the Black vote , the Hispanic vote , the Jewish vote , the womens vote , the youth vote...This will take time and HONESTY...Funny that you don't single out Jews that vote heavily for democrats or Hispanics or Asians...Why are we judged differently then other groups..??..By the way , you mentioned "redistribution of wealth" but failed to mention the growing gap in income inequality and the shrinking middle class since Reagan took office...Let's forget the politics for a minute...What solutions do you have for the Black community ...???
 
tony morgan said:

Let me reiterate my position again to you. I’ve learn long ago if we as a people wasted time singling out every racist of any political party we would collectively be where we are at right now, nowhere! What monetary reward would I get for singling out every racist republican you say exist? I mean is it really a profitable endeavor or is it the usual lip service by us? I admit to you there are racist republicans but not the numbers to prevent me or any other black person who desires to move ahead economically without someone claiming to redistribute my wealth especially if god didn’t tell that person to do so, why would I be stuck on stupid over some racist? Acknowledging a racist is giving audience to a fool something I want waste my time doing ever again unless it yields me monetary gain by legal actions. So we are right back to where we started how do black folks move pass that which we know exist in all parties stop placing our eggs in one basket and give the pubs the chance to put up or forever shut up? I’m not afraid to call out any white republican racist I just do not wish to waster my time on one that’s all. We sadly as Black folks have wasted to much time on racist and little time with those who aren’t.

[tony morgan]

So basically you have reduced the politics of the matter down to the NAACP image Awards mantra and not the image we portray to the world as people? I live by the facts the bible says are facts such a fact is “The (sinners) wealth is stored up for the righteous”. Now the sinner-racist-bigot-Supremist could be AA white jewish or any other race because the bible says, sinners, not his race.  This is where AA who knows the truth-Gods word makes their bank in life without begging someone in either party to help them. Since god knows all sees all and hears all he knows exactly who is and isn’t a racist, racism can’t touch me because unlike you I ‘m in this world but not of it, meaning you choose what affects you, I chose what want bother me. I haven’t since birth made anyone white my God because God is a Spirit not a race or color. This is where Black folks miss the boat period, spending time on hue instead of whom! You called some brothers rentakneegrows. Do you know what those people had to do in their personal lives to get where they are at now? I’m sorry I don’t have the plantation mentality whereby I must check with someone white first before proceeding with my life despite of racist minds. My passport is the word of God not owned by any man white or black or otherwise. Again this isn’t about some image about one political party it’s about AA not placing their eggs in one basket and pretending that basket is better than another one simply because the delusion they aren’t racist prevails.

[jack thomas]

Sorry my brother ....You sound like a religious fanatic with that nonsense..By the way , are you reading the "King James" version of the Bible or some other version...Tell me , are you the only Black person immune to racism but then blame democrats for their racist attitudes...Sorry son , you can't have it both ways..There is such a thing called honesty which for some reason you seem to run away from...Let's look at this in a practical manner shall we...You are asking how you can change your image of an oreo in the Black community , so I assume you are thinking of talking to Black people about the wonderful virtues of the GOP..Funny thing is you can't tell them anything so now what , you can't start the super - religious thing on them because as quiet as it's keep , a lot of Black people read the Bible..So what do you say when Black people ask you a simple question like.."The GOP tried to take my vote so why do they deserve  my support"...They have facts and vids of republicans admitting that so what do you say to then ..??..This is what you are not prepared for...The truth...Of course there are many other examples of GOP racism that turn Black people off of the GOP but for some reason you expect Black people to forget about that and "spend time with whom"..???..That ain't gonna happen..And to answer your question about "rent-a-knee-grows"...they had to sellout to get to where they are , that's why neither Keyes or Cain has yet to win any election and must likely never will..

 

Also , what is the image of the GOP to the world....and what is the image of a Black republican that remains silent about the nonsense going on in the GOP...???...Take all the time you need to "deal with that"...
 
tony morgan said:

So basically you have reduced the politics of the matter down to the NAACP image Awards mantra and not the image we portray to the world as people? I live by the facts the bible says are facts such a fact is “The (sinners) wealth is stored up for the righteous”. Now the sinner-racist-bigot-Supremist could be AA white jewish or any other race because the bible says, sinners, not his race.  This is where AA who knows the truth-Gods word makes their bank in life without begging someone in either party to help them. Since god knows all sees all and hears all he knows exactly who is and isn’t a racist, racism can’t touch me because unlike you I ‘m in this world but not of it, meaning you choose what affects you, I chose what want bother me. I haven’t since birth made anyone white my God because God is a Spirit not a race or color. This is where Black folks miss the boat period, spending time on hue instead of whom! You called some brothers rentakneegrows. Do you know what those people had to do in their personal lives to get where they are at now? I’m sorry I don’t have the plantation mentality whereby I must check with someone white first before proceeding with my life despite of racist minds. My passport is the word of God not owned by any man white or black or otherwise. Again this isn’t about some image about one political party it’s about AA not placing their eggs in one basket and pretending that basket is better than another one simply because the delusion they aren’t racist prevails.

[tony morgan]

Isa. 54 :17 makes me (immune) to racism, apparently it doesn’t for you. I’m not religious rather Holy simply because without Holiness no man shall see the lord, Heb.12:14.

Black people like yourself sadly go to bed a victim and wake up the next day a victim, proof is you responded to this post a victim of republicans you responded the next day a victim to republicans where as I know I’m a victor over anyone and anything that stands in my way.

Addressing the Black folks problem with republicans can only be answered when black republicans who are deemed 500, wanna be’s, sell outs, oreo’s, reflect on their own personal lives to see just how do they communicate with AA who happen to be democrats also. Is their bias among ourselves politically yes there is without a doubt! Is there a false odor germinating where one thinks he /she is better than someone else yes there is. See I can answer (real) and have no problem doing so but I want be you, a victim, who victimized your own self by placing someone white above you.....

[jack thomas]

Nice little Bible quote but Jesus was also a victim of racism ...and with the image of him being a white man ..he is still a victim of racism..You need to stop talking nonsense and grow up...I assume you have the GOP "democrats the KKK" playbook.??..Remember the 4 little girls that died in a fire bomb during sunday school in Alabama..??..That was a racist act...and the victims nor the families of those victims were immume...Are paying attention son..??..These victims did not place any white people above them but they were still victims..The point is the GOP is a racist party...that has been proven by their actions and to deny those facts means that you feel in some way "obligated to defend , deny , and ignore these acts of racism...Why is that...???...Why are you going to bed thinking you need to defend anyone that is racist against your people..Making excuses is a sign of weakness..The life story of any Black republican does not matter when Black people correctly see the GOP as a party of racists. , therefore it is the policies and actions of the party that has to change before that life story can make any sense...do you understand that..??

 

I merely state facts and you opened this forum whining about why Black people view you as an oreo but when faced with the truth behind why Black people don't respect Black republican you ran into this "I'm not a victim" nonsense..

 

Also , what is the image of the GOP to the world....and what is the image of a Black republican that remains silent about the nonsense going on in the GOP...???...

 
tony morgan said:

Isa. 54 :17 makes me (immune) to racism, apparently it doesn’t for you. I’m not religious rather Holy simply because without Holiness no man shall see the lord, Heb.12:14.

Black people like yourself sadly go to bed a victim and wake up the next day a victim, proof is you responded to this post a victim of republicans you responded the next day a victim to republicans where as I know I’m a victor over anyone and anything that stands in my way.

Addressing the Black folks problem with republicans can only be answered when black republicans who are deemed 500, wanna be’s, sell outs, oreo’s, reflect on their own personal lives to see just how do they communicate with AA who happen to be democrats also. Is their bias among ourselves politically yes there is without a doubt! Is there a false odor germinating where one thinks he /she is better than someone else yes there is. See I can answer (real) and have no problem doing so but I want be you, a victim, who victimized your own self by placing someone white above you.....