Obama Re-elected...I am disgusted.

[Diana Jenkins]

Thoughts? Comments?

[jack thomas]

It would be nice if someone with guts addressed this....

"When the stupid GOP stops the racism..then and only then will get support from the Black communitiy and other minority communities....And are you Black conservatives "disgusted" that the GOP only has ONE Black member of congress....???

[Martin Harkless]

I see no facts in your reply Jackie. I'm a Marine not a soldier learn the difference. Lol
However white professionals are at about 4.5% Asian professionals are at 5.5. And black professionals about 7.3, so you are correct. Part of that problem is that when jobs move from cities to rural environments blacks don't move. Again I'm simply saying that we have to go to the root of our problems and solve them. Not just complain or wait on the government. And oh by the way I didn't state opinions I stated facts google them yourself. Approx 3 mil jobs go unfilled annually, approx 11 mil jobs a year will become vacant with baby boomer retirement. How do we blacks tap into this?




jack thomas said:

Typical answer from another stupid Black conservative...Tell you what :soldier boy...Why is the unemployment rate among Black professionals and Black workers with college degrees higher than other races..??...The problem is in our refusal to unite as people and WORK TOGETHER instead of waiting for a white person to hire us.....For example there is no reason for any Black college to go bankrupt but we allow that to happen...And how did the "Conservative" government plan to pay for two wars , or pay for a huge tax cut for the rich , or pay for more military spending that we really don't need...Where's the money for education , alternative energy ,  infrastructure...You sound so ignorant with your "Black people are lazy" parrotting....Black people work hard everyday but in your "yassa boss" brain you think Black people are waiting for the government to give them something...That's interersting since the government gives more to poor white people AND rich white people than anyone else...But you're ok with that since it helps you defend and support the racism of the GOP..I assume you are willing to ignore the voter suppression laws the GOP tried to pass, and the racist tea party , and the racist right wing pundits like Rush Limpballs that preach hatred and stupidity.....However getting back to the point , I notice not one person here addressed the questions that I raised...which is also typical of Black conservatives...but you get it honestly,,,

 

"Facts are stupid things"

Ronald "I support Apartheid" Reagan

 

Like I said  I merely state facts so why are you and other Black conservatives afraid to deal with those facts..???
 
Martin Harkless said:

Diana,

First lets wonder together why a person would joins a site to bash it's members? Don't know Jack Thomas but he seems to be ok with insulting women.

America, especially Black America wanted more from Government, without thinking how do we pay for it. The answer given is of course the same as every great nation has faced, take from the rich, take from the military. But that answer doesn't work. Why not truly find a way more can be rich? Or at least better off. The problem is that it takes effort, and many don't want to put out that effort.

With the retirement of the Baby Boomers there is approximately 11 million jobs a yr. coming available, add that to the 3 millions that currently go unfilled, so why are so many out of work? My simple answer, education is difficult, and many would rather settle for minimum education which comes with minimum wage, instead of buckle down and learn a skill that will get them the opportunity of the future.

So youth and many others decided that the promise of a "living wage" for minimum work and education, is better than a meaningful but more difficult journey. Others truly don't understand that poverty economics and being black are not a good reason to vote for someone. Oh and not to leave out the Latinos who voted for what they feel was the better path to citizenship.


R/S

Martin Harkless
USMC MSgt ret

[Martin Harkless]

Jack, part of our problem with Republicans is that we (blacks) don't trust them, we don't support them so we are not their constituents. Then we wonder why they don't cater to our needs. Why don't blacks ever get behind black republicans? Most are very moderate, and have ideas that are 100% for the black community. Yet we don't support them. Yet we will support both black and white democrats, yet our communities still suffer the same fate.

Ever wonder why a city with democrats as leaders are poor especially in black areas, yet those same Dems get voted in every election?






jack thomas said:

It would be nice if someone with guts addressed this....

"When the stupid GOP stops the racism..then and only then will get support from the Black communitiy and other minority communities....And are you Black conservatives "disgusted" that the GOP only has ONE Black member of congress....???

[Diana Jenkins]

Please. I am not a collectivist. That is why I didn't vote for your Communist Obama. Get your head out of your collectivist ass and start focusing on hard work and dedication. Lazy ass complaining welfare receiving bitching racist blacks need to pull themselves up, get an education, and WORK HARD. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. The reason why so called "black cities" Detroit, for example, live in squalor, is due to the Black Democratic mentality- it keeps black people in modern day slavery. You say I sound like the typical Black Republican? Huh. Well, I'm proud to be. I worked my ass off to get to where I am, I don't live in the ghetto, I have money in the bank, and am not hurting for anything. Black Democrats disgust me, along with your Commie Socialist Obama. You can continue to bitch about what the "white man" has done to you, why he's keeping you down, why you live in the ghetto, can't get a job, etc. while I lead my productive and prosperous life. I get the fact that we have been persecuted for centuries....BUT that is NOT an excuse to live in oppression and poverty...especially if you are a U.S. citizen! Here in the U.S., it is illegal for a child not to go to school. Children get free government sponsored education from Kindergarten through the 12th grade. In places such as Mexico, parents have to pay for their children to go to school...it is not free. As a professional in the field of education, I have watched how families move here from China and India, and push the hell out of their kids in school because they know they will prosper here in America if they do well in school. Some of the families I have worked with come from such extreme poverty...American black ghettos look like royalty in comparison. These Chinese and Indian children study night and day, and let no discrimination nor any type of hardship hold them back. In turn, they become Doctors, Lawyers, Brain Surgeons, etc. ANYONE CAN DO IT. ANYONE. A black child from the GHETTO could do it. Why don't they? Because their parents feed them the ignorant garbage that they will never get ahead in life because the "white man" hates them. IT INFURIATES ME. I haven't a DROP of sympathy for poor black people born here in the U.S.- only for their children.

[Martin Harkless]

That may have been hard, but in many ways I agree. I had to study in school, read a lot, and work hard, I then joined the military and made many sacrifices. I never felt anyone was any better than me,or better off, I know some people had more but I always had the belief I would/could succeed.

[jack thomas]

You didn't answer the question or address the comment...Black professional unemployment is a lot higher than it should be...Now why is that...???
 
Martin Harkless said:

I see no facts in your reply Jackie. I'm a Marine not a soldier learn the difference. Lol
However white professionals are at about 4.5% Asian professionals are at 5.5. And black professionals about 7.3, so you are correct. Part of that problem is that when jobs move from cities to rural environments blacks don't move. Again I'm simply saying that we have to go to the root of our problems and solve them. Not just complain or wait on the government. And oh by the way I didn't state opinions I stated facts google them yourself. Approx 3 mil jobs go unfilled annually, approx 11 mil jobs a year will become vacant with baby boomer retirement. How do we blacks tap into this?




jack thomas said:

Typical answer from another stupid Black conservative...Tell you what :soldier boy...Why is the unemployment rate among Black professionals and Black workers with college degrees higher than other races..??...The problem is in our refusal to unite as people and WORK TOGETHER instead of waiting for a white person to hire us.....For example there is no reason for any Black college to go bankrupt but we allow that to happen...And how did the "Conservative" government plan to pay for two wars , or pay for a huge tax cut for the rich , or pay for more military spending that we really don't need...Where's the money for education , alternative energy ,  infrastructure...You sound so ignorant with your "Black people are lazy" parrotting....Black people work hard everyday but in your "yassa boss" brain you think Black people are waiting for the government to give them something...That's interersting since the government gives more to poor white people AND rich white people than anyone else...But you're ok with that since it helps you defend and support the racism of the GOP..I assume you are willing to ignore the voter suppression laws the GOP tried to pass, and the racist tea party , and the racist right wing pundits like Rush Limpballs that preach hatred and stupidity.....However getting back to the point , I notice not one person here addressed the questions that I raised...which is also typical of Black conservatives...but you get it honestly,,,

 

"Facts are stupid things"

Ronald "I support Apartheid" Reagan

 

Like I said  I merely state facts so why are you and other Black conservatives afraid to deal with those facts..???
 
Martin Harkless said:

Diana,

First lets wonder together why a person would joins a site to bash it's members? Don't know Jack Thomas but he seems to be ok with insulting women.

America, especially Black America wanted more from Government, without thinking how do we pay for it. The answer given is of course the same as every great nation has faced, take from the rich, take from the military. But that answer doesn't work. Why not truly find a way more can be rich? Or at least better off. The problem is that it takes effort, and many don't want to put out that effort.

With the retirement of the Baby Boomers there is approximately 11 million jobs a yr. coming available, add that to the 3 millions that currently go unfilled, so why are so many out of work? My simple answer, education is difficult, and many would rather settle for minimum education which comes with minimum wage, instead of buckle down and learn a skill that will get them the opportunity of the future.

So youth and many others decided that the promise of a "living wage" for minimum work and education, is better than a meaningful but more difficult journey. Others truly don't understand that poverty economics and being black are not a good reason to vote for someone. Oh and not to leave out the Latinos who voted for what they feel was the better path to citizenship.


R/S

Martin Harkless
USMC MSgt ret

[jack thomas]

The reason why Black people don't support republicans is because of the racism from the GOP...Now let's be honest about this..You have a Black man in the white house and the only thing the GOP cared about was making Obama a one-term president...Forget about working to solve problems , forget about the country , the GOP only focused on trying to bring down the president..Now when the Black community sees that what do you expect them to do..?? And the GOP tried AND ADMITTED voter suppression on minority voters...now why should any Black person vote for the GOP when the GOP is trying to suppress the very votes that they are trying to receive...???..The GOP also had the racist tea party spreading nothing but hatred and racism..Even some Black republicans spoke out about that...Black conservatives do not help their cause when they ignore , defend and support these racist acts...And the last thing any Black republican should do is buy in on the lie that MLK was a republican...Even Michael Steele spoke out against that....Therefore when Black Americans see and hear the intense hatred coming from the GOP they react like any other group that feels insulted would..."they vote" against it...Black people were determined to vote in record numbers...they waited for hours , they voted early , they made sure other Black people voted...This was all caused by the racism from the GOP ...Now what is really sad is that some Black republicans will try to deny everything I just posted...Therein lies the problem with the Black community and Black republicans....Alan West , Herman Cain , Mia Love , Allen Keyes , Tim Scott are all examples of Black republicans that parrot the same racist talking points that the GOP uses....How in the world do you expect the Black community to even entertain the notion of voting for them...??..The problem is not only the Black community but the Asian community and the Hispanic community didn't support the GOP...Now why is that..??..I know that you and other republicans are going to claim that there is no racism in the tea party , that MLK was actually a conservative , that Reagan was not a racist , that voter suppression was not real , that the message from the GOP was not heard , that nazis like Beck , Hannity , Coulter , Limpballs , Savage are not racist....etc..etc..Just more stupid excuses that will only result in more democrats in the white house...Also the one thing that republicans really don;t understand is that their policies do not work  Let's be honest..The economy perfroms better under democratic presidents...you can look it up...Less US soldiers and "marines" die in wars when democrats are in office...Therefore.....What has the GOP done for the country in the last 13 years....Be honest about that because as you can see , the voting public has answered that question....
 
Martin Harkless said:

Jack, part of our problem with Republicans is that we (blacks) don't trust them, we don't support them so we are not their constituents. Then we wonder why they don't cater to our needs. Why don't blacks ever get behind black republicans? Most are very moderate, and have ideas that are 100% for the black community. Yet we don't support them. Yet we will support both black and white democrats, yet our communities still suffer the same fate.

Ever wonder why a city with democrats as leaders are poor especially in black areas, yet those same Dems get voted in every election?






jack thomas said:

It would be nice if someone with guts addressed this....

"When the stupid GOP stops the racism..then and only then will get support from the Black communitiy and other minority communities....And are you Black conservatives "disgusted" that the GOP only has ONE Black member of congress....???

[jack thomas]

You sound like a typical useless uncle tom that thinks every situation in life is a mirror of your empty life...Well answer this question "step-n-fetch-it"...Why are the poorest states in the country "red states"...why are the lowest IQ scores in "red states"...Why are the most successful Black people democrats...???..Since most Black peple work for a living why do you assume that most Black people wait for a welfare check...??..You have hatred for Black people especially the ones that are poor...How do you expect them to "respect you" if you harbor that much hatred...Jesus was poor and he helped the poor...Mlk helped the poor ..Being poor is not a crime , it is a life condidtion that exists for different reasons..And I agree the parents are the main reason for the lack of education in our communities but you can't blame that on republicans or democrats...That's a problem that Black people must solve not politicians...And what solutions do the republicans have,,,Do you know that income inequality has been getting wider in the past 30 years....??..That means your "white" friends have also faced the reality of being poor especially in rural America where their is nothing but republicans....You need to grow up and take that chip off your shoulder...Obama stopped the country from going into a depression and Romney wanted to use the same economic model that Bush used...That's insane which is another reason why he lost the election...You are so bent on hating poor Black people but I assume you supported the Iraq war ...I assume you belive the bullshyt official version of 911 , I assume you really believe that Obama is a communist...I assume that you think Rush Limpballs is not a racist but Rev Wright is....I assume you believe the 47% remark that got Romney in trouble..I assume you think Sarah "the child is not my son" Palin would be a good vice president...I assume that you belive that the GOP didn;t try to suppress the Black even after they admitted it...I also assume that you are a useless uncle tom that hates being Black...

 

By the way , if these Indians and Asians were so wonderful they have their own schools and their own colleges and their own country to build...They are here because they can't do that in their country so their "culture" really ain't that great or else they would not leave it....And for the record  there are some "white men" that hate Black people..That's why you have groups like the KKK , the CCC , Stromfront  the tea party and other white supremacist groups..Like I posted before , the unemployment rate is higher among Black professionals than white professionals...that is a result of racism and we cannot use that as an excuse for not working hard but it is a realtiy that we cannot ignore.....You say you are in the education field so are concerned that your job may be cut if the GOP has it's way..???..They want to cut pell grants , teachers and funding for education but you whine about Obama...??..I asked this question before but you seem to ignore it so I'll try again...

What has the GOP done for the country in the last 13 years...????
 
Diana Jenkins said:

Please. I am not a collectivist. That is why I didn't vote for your Communist Obama. Get your head out of your collectivist ass and start focusing on hard work and dedication. Lazy ass complaining welfare receiving bitching racist blacks need to pull themselves up, get an education, and WORK HARD. IT'S VERY SIMPLE. The reason why so called "black cities" Detroit, for example, live in squalor, is due to the Black Democratic mentality- it keeps black people in modern day slavery. You say I sound like the typical Black Republican? Huh. Well, I'm proud to be. I worked my ass off to get to where I am, I don't live in the ghetto, I have money in the bank, and am not hurting for anything. Black Democrats disgust me, along with your Commie Socialist Obama. You can continue to bitch about what the "white man" has done to you, why he's keeping you down, why you live in the ghetto, can't get a job, etc. while I lead my productive and prosperous life. I get the fact that we have been persecuted for centuries....BUT that is NOT an excuse to live in oppression and poverty...especially if you are a U.S. citizen! Here in the U.S., it is illegal for a child not to go to school. Children get free government sponsored education from Kindergarten through the 12th grade. In places such as Mexico, parents have to pay for their children to go to school...it is not free. As a professional in the field of education, I have watched how families move here from China and India, and push the hell out of their kids in school because they know they will prosper here in America if they do well in school. Some of the families I have worked with come from such extreme poverty...American black ghettos look like royalty in comparison. These Chinese and Indian children study night and day, and let no discrimination nor any type of hardship hold them back. In turn, they become Doctors, Lawyers, Brain Surgeons, etc. ANYONE CAN DO IT. ANYONE. A black child from the GHETTO could do it. Why don't they? Because their parents feed them the ignorant garbage that they will never get ahead in life because the "white man" hates them. IT INFURIATES ME. I haven't a DROP of sympathy for poor black people born here in the U.S.- only for their children.

[Diana Jenkins]

You are a complete idiot, and I choose to withdraw from this discussion with you- it is a total waste of my precious time. There is no convincing people like yourself. I will address only a few of your ridiculous points here; don't expect me to reply any further after this. No one cares about your warped liberal garbage. Go join a liberal site. First of all, it is not "poor black people" I have a hatred for. In fact, I don't have a "hatred" for anyone. However, I am disgusted with LIBERALS (mainly black Liberals, because 95% of African Americans VOTE LIBERAL) that live in squalor and blame the "White man." As for Indian and Asian people...are you serious??? LOL your argument cracked me up...THEY LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY COME FROM COMMUNIST AND/OR CASTE-SYSTEM HELL-HOLES. They come HERE because they recognize that HERE, they can obtain material wealth and success through education and hard work!!!! Indians and Asians realize that, no matter how hard they work, they will NEVER get ahead in a Communist country. DUH. Am I arguing with a 1st grader? This is ridiculous. And as far as Obama saving us from a depression...YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. Obama incurred more debt in this country in 3 years than Bush did in 8!! Obama is the king of the idiots- AND he wants to turn this country into a socialist regime. My God, you liberals disgust me with your utter and complete ignorance. Goodbye, idiot. I'm done. Get off our website, thanks.

[jack thomas]

Nice try "step-n-fetch-it" but as usual you only parrot the stupid points of the failing GOP...When Obama took office the country was losing over 700,000 jobs PER MONTH and the economy was headed for a depression...Most economists with any common sense stated that fact..Now that the country is not in the economic peril that it was when Obama took office yet you want to complain about the deficit..Obama added the two wars to the deficit and passed the stimulus bill which created and saved over 3 million jobs..Reagan quadrupled the deficit...Bush turned a surplus INTO a deficit so in your quest to go "above and beyond the cause of a knee-grow" once again you ignore facts and common sense...Your stupid assupmtion that all Indians and Asians come from either communist countries or caste-syytem countries is proof that you have never researched where this people come from and the countries that do not fall in your stupid mindset...People come to this country for different reasons and I will agree that most are coming because of the conditions of thieir country...which is my point..There cultures and countries are not that great to begin with so very . very few actually get to this country and they come with a different mission than people that were brought here against their will..And as you notice they do not forget their cultures , their religion or their language....And as quiet as it's kept , more Asians are going to Canada than coming to America...Did you know that "step-n-fetch-it"..??..Now your stupid comment that Black liberals live in squalor and blame the white man only proves that you really hate being Black and you hate Black people..I posted several questions as to why a Black person would vote for a republican and in your cowardly attitude you didn't answer those quesrtions...That's cool ..a conservative idiot like yourself can't think rationally anyway so I'm not surprised or disappointed..But what about most liberals including Black liberals that do not live in squalor...Do you have the same stupid viewpoint for them..???..Colin Powell endorsed Obama do you have the same stupid viewpoint for him ..Magic Johnson , Oprah Winfrey , and most successful Black people voted for Obama so are you saying that they are also living in squalor..I think you have a personal problem with Black people because they didn't lower themselves to your useless knee-grow level..

 

Now I asked you in my previous post...

 

What has the GOP done for the country in the last 13 years...???

 

.AND

 

Being that the GOP went on a voter suppressiion rampage , why should any Black person vote republican...???

 

Let me know when you summon the maturity to answer ....

Diana Jenkins said:

You are a complete idiot, and I choose to withdraw from this discussion with you- it is a total waste of my precious time. There is no convincing people like yourself. I will address only a few of your ridiculous points here; don't expect me to reply any further after this. No one cares about your warped liberal garbage. Go join a liberal site. First of all, it is not "poor black people" I have a hatred for. In fact, I don't have a "hatred" for anyone. However, I am disgusted with LIBERALS (mainly black Liberals, because 95% of African Americans VOTE LIBERAL) that live in squalor and blame the "White man." As for Indian and Asian people...are you serious??? LOL your argument cracked me up...THEY LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY COME FROM COMMUNIST AND/OR CASTE-SYSTEM HELL-HOLES. They come HERE because they recognize that HERE, they can obtain material wealth and success through education and hard work!!!! Indians and Asians realize that, no matter how hard they work, they will NEVER get ahead in a Communist country. DUH. Am I arguing with a 1st grader? This is ridiculous. And as far as Obama saving us from a depression...YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. Obama incurred more debt in this country in 3 years than Bush did in 8!! Obama is the king of the idiots- AND he wants to turn this country into a socialist regime. My God, you liberals disgust me with your utter and complete ignorance. Goodbye, idiot. I'm done. Get off our website, thanks.

[jack thomas]

Just curious...Do you have any "disgust" I mean hatred for the vast number of poor white people living in squalor that continue to vote "conservative"....???..

Diana Jenkins said:

You are a complete idiot, and I choose to withdraw from this discussion with you- it is a total waste of my precious time. There is no convincing people like yourself. I will address only a few of your ridiculous points here; don't expect me to reply any further after this. No one cares about your warped liberal garbage. Go join a liberal site. First of all, it is not "poor black people" I have a hatred for. In fact, I don't have a "hatred" for anyone. However, I am disgusted with LIBERALS (mainly black Liberals, because 95% of African Americans VOTE LIBERAL) that live in squalor and blame the "White man." As for Indian and Asian people...are you serious??? LOL your argument cracked me up...THEY LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY COME FROM COMMUNIST AND/OR CASTE-SYSTEM HELL-HOLES. They come HERE because they recognize that HERE, they can obtain material wealth and success through education and hard work!!!! Indians and Asians realize that, no matter how hard they work, they will NEVER get ahead in a Communist country. DUH. Am I arguing with a 1st grader? This is ridiculous. And as far as Obama saving us from a depression...YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. Obama incurred more debt in this country in 3 years than Bush did in 8!! Obama is the king of the idiots- AND he wants to turn this country into a socialist regime. My God, you liberals disgust me with your utter and complete ignorance. Goodbye, idiot. I'm done. Get off our website, thanks.

[francis cooper]

you know there's nothing wrong with what oblamema is doing, the problem is those who voted for him it just go to show how much they knew about oblamema.  education in there mines are a bad thing, so let them stay in the position they are in until they decide to come from under the water they are being held under.  unknowing black folks has been held under the water by the democrap till it's ashame.  they have been there by democraps for so long they think it's the republicans holding them there , but if they would come up and really see then and only then will they see it's been the democraps all along.  so let's stay prayful until our change come....