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So African Americans and Women's unemployment rises, Blame Bush?

So if the candidate that you chose because he "understands" your race or gender still has done nothing to reduce your unemployment nor has his party, should you change parties, or Blame ?


Politics: Unemployment jumps for women and African Americans

Published by: Robert Laurie on Friday January 4th, 2013


By ROBERT LAURIE - You get what you vote for....

Women and minorities. If the post-election breakdown is to be believed, that's who put Obama back in office. African-Americans and females refused to vote for Romney, so the status quo was maintained.

Surely, with the election turning out exactly as they hoped, they're thrilled with today's job numbers.

According to the new data, the overall unemployment rate stayed at 7.8 in December, but jobless numbers for African-Americans and women jumped sharply.

Female unemployment went from 7% to 7.3% while African-American unemployment skyrocketed almost a full point - from 13.2% in November to 14% today.

The news is even worse for young people, aged 18-29. Their overall unemployment rate swelled to 11.5%, while young African-American unemployment is positively staggering at 22.1%

Interestingly, December usually features a large number of temporary jobs connected with the holidays, and they tend to most heavily benefit the aforementioned groups. The fact that African-Americans actually saw a decrease in overall employment (from 16 million to 15.8 million) during the fiscal year's busiest season is deeply troubling.

Unless, of course, you voted for the President because you like things this way. In that case, there's nothing to see here.

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Permalink Reply by jack thomas on January 17, 2013 at 11:29am

Since the unemployment rate stayed the same and unemployment among women and African- Americans increased..That only means that white man are being hired before women and minorities are....Don't you "see" that...

Also , the average black unemployment rate was 19.5 percent in 1983, three years into Reagan’s first term in office. The unemployment rate for the nation was much lower than the presnet day 7.8%...so why the big gap in unemployment..??

 

Since 1977, black unemployment under Republican administrations has averaged 16.4 percent — more than five percentage points higher than the 11.1 percent average under Democrats, according to a Dayton Daily News analysis of BLS figures.

“Black folks who say they’re no better off under Obama need to ask themselves how well off they would be under another Republican administration,” said Charles Showell, dean of the business school at Central State

 

"Facts are stupid things"...Ronald "I support Apartheid"  Reagan

Permalink Reply by Martin Harkless on January 17, 2013 at 1:27pm
Yeah Jack, so you're saying Racism is what's keeping blacks from being employed, and what else? Oh should the "black" president then discuss this?
Permalink Reply by jack thomas on January 17, 2013 at 4:21pm

That's an interesting question..Being that he is a Black president there would be considerable backlash against him for stating that fact abiut racism and unemployment....Look how racist white America reacted to the Skip Gates comments and the Trayvon Martin comments....But let's be clear about this..There are several reasons why a person is not employed...Education , skills set etc.. The point that I make is that there is the reason of racism for Black umemployment to be much higher then white unemployment...That is proven in the fact that white collar professional Black people have a higher unemployment rate then less qualified white professionals...Remember this president is fighting racist elements like the tea party who asks businesses to stop hiring people so the President will look bad..( I will post a link to that fact if you need to see proof )..What the president and the country needs is for the stupid republicans to stop trying to destroy one man while doing nothing for the country..For the last 13 years the GOP has fone noting.... However , why can't that same question be applied to other presidents..??..Why is President Obama given the torch to solve high Black unemplyment when that has been the case for over 400 years.??...He cannot do this himself , the Black community has to understand that they must employ , teach , protect and build their communities by themselves..Our money does not stay in the Black community long enough to make am economic impact..We also must not allow ourselves to be blind to those that are fighting aganst us

 

Now that's how you man up and answer a question..I don't run and hide like a little school girl and try to ignore facts..There are several things that I don't like about some of Obama's policies and if asked I will share them but you and most Black conservatives never answer a question ..How can you expect to "reach" the Black community if you continue to this nonsense..You display yourself as a military man but you can't be honest about the racism in the GOP. That's cowardly and stupid..I have respect for people in uniform because I also served in the armed forces....Man up and face the truth...

"By the way , can you tell me why Black people should vote for a party that tries to suppress their vote...????."


 
Martin Harkless said:

Yeah Jack, so you're saying Racism is what's keeping blacks from being employed, and what else? Oh should the "black" president then discuss this?
Permalink Reply by Martin Harkless on January 18, 2013 at 12:42am
Jack,

One reason I don't answer your questions is you almost always resort to name calling. So to not escalate the issue I withdraw. However I have seen just as many racist democrats as republicans, and I call them both out. However my reasons for not being a democrat are also my religious beliefs and my belief about our fiscal policies.

I would love to see an actual video of tea party members telling business owners not to help the president. I think that would be proof, I could then show you videos of left agencies telling people how to commit voter fraud to vote FOR the president. My point is both parties do dumb stuff.

Finally I applaud your military service if you were honorably discharged, and I told you in a private note that part of the reason you don't get respect is you don't give it, you only name call. Thats part of what hurts black republicans at local and state levels, regardless of whether they have awesome ideas and solutions, their competition immediately starts the "uncle tom" stuff and they are ostracized. You can see me, but You won't even show yourself. Why should I take you serious?

Martin
Permalink Reply by Martin Harkless on January 18, 2013 at 12:59am
Oh by the way it's still rising under president Obama and yes I expect the black president to bring up black issues, if he's concerned.
Permalink Reply by jack thomas on January 18, 2013 at 5:11am

Nice try Martin but let's face it...you don't answer certain question because you are afraid to admit the truth about the beloved GOP...So I'll try again ..this time leave out the weak excuses....

 

"By the way , can you tell me why Black people should vote for a party that tries to suppress their vote...????."
 
Martin Harkless said:

Jack,

One reason I don't answer your questions is you almost always resort to name calling. So to not escalate the issue I withdraw. However I have seen just as many racist democrats as republicans, and I call them both out. However my reasons for not being a democrat are also my religious beliefs and my belief about our fiscal policies.

I would love to see an actual video of tea party members telling business owners not to help the president. I think that would be proof, I could then show you videos of left agencies telling people how to commit voter fraud to vote FOR the president. My point is both parties do dumb stuff.

Finally I applaud your military service if you were honorably discharged, and I told you in a private note that part of the reason you don't get respect is you don't give it, you only name call. Thats part of what hurts black republicans at local and state levels, regardless of whether they have awesome ideas and solutions, their competition immediately starts the "uncle tom" stuff and they are ostracized. You can see me, but You won't even show yourself. Why should I take you serious?

Martin
Permalink Reply by Martin Harkless on January 18, 2013 at 3:47pm
Give me one example of suppressed vote to respond to.
Permalink Reply by jack thomas on January 19, 2013 at 6:39pm
Permalink Reply by Martin Harkless on January 19, 2013 at 9:03pm
My issue, unless you know exactly who you're calling, sending email to, or expecting not to have ID your hurting ALL voters. So while research says these laws and actions hurt only democrat or black voters that can't be true. And it's known some of these tactics are used by both parties. As for voter ID, I am for these laws, but I agree that actual student ID, is equal to gun license.

As for Felons any I know were convicted for a crime they committed so while that should be a temporary suspension of voter rights permanent may be too severe. Regardless of race.

Are blacks the only people without ID's? Are we the only people who vote early, or absentee? And these quotes are all have added information to make them say what the liberal press wants them to say. If I say "Urban". I must mean blacks.
Are we the only people who live in the city? Urban means city. Also are we blacks the only ones who become elderly?
Are we the only people who have student ID?

Why don' we find ways to get people proper ID, and proper information and then none of these tactics would even work.

Jack that would be a good way to spend your free time.

Mrtin
Permalink Reply by jack thomas on January 20, 2013 at 12:51pm

Well I have worked with people to get there proper IDs but IDs are not the whole problem.. You really miss the point here..The GOP targeted democratic voters and Black voters in particular..To say that democrats are also suppressing the Black vote is stupid..Where is your proof of that...?? I have posted not only proof of voter suppression by the GOP against Black people but proof of republicans ADMITTING voter suppression against Black people...Now if other voters are affected so much the better for the GOP...So why do you continue to make excuses for an obvious act of GOP racism agsainst "your people"...You wondered if I was really Black because I have no photo ...I wonder if you are Black because you defend racism..If someone were to read our conversation here who would be labled white and hiding something and who would labled Black and fighting for something...so as before...

 

"By the way , can you tell me why Black people should vote for a party that tries to suppress their vote...????."
 
Martin Harkless said:

My issue, unless you know exactly who you're calling, sending email to, or expecting not to have ID your hurting ALL voters. So while research says these laws and actions hurt only democrat or black voters that can't be true. And it's known some of these tactics are used by both parties. As for voter ID, I am for these laws, but I agree that actual student ID, is equal to gun license.

As for Felons any I know were convicted for a crime they committed so while that should be a temporary suspension of voter rights permanent may be too severe. Regardless of race.

Are blacks the only people without ID's? Are we the only people who vote early, or absentee? And these quotes are all have added information to make them say what the liberal press wants them to say. If I say "Urban". I must mean blacks.
Are we the only people who live in the city? Urban means city. Also are we blacks the only ones who become elderly?
Are we the only people who have student ID?

Why don' we find ways to get people proper ID, and proper information and then none of these tactics would even work.

Jack that would be a good way to spend your free time.

Mrtin
Permalink Reply by Martin Harkless on January 20, 2013 at 3:21pm
Jack

I said both parties seek to find ways to mitigate the others base, ie we both know democrats try to suppress the military vote. Suppression then is a part of the game although it shouldn't be. However if republican ideas can help blacks more than democrat ideas in the long run, ie small business ownership, not just govt jobs, or self control and morals not abortions and free birth control, then that is why "Blacks should vote republican". If more blacks looked at the issues and voted for whomever lined up with their beliefs and needs then republicans would not see them as a sold out to "the second coming" of BO or Barry Sotello and this would be a moot point.

The problem with your question, is its foolish and the same question can be asked about the Democratic Party which suppressed the black vote for yrs, and more overtly.

Ok I'm done lets move on

MH
Permalink Reply by jack thomas on January 20, 2013 at 4:34pm

Since you missed it the first time....

 

I heard about the military voting situation and like I've said many times...It depends on who you ask and how much research you've done...

"Mitt Romney wrongly suggests the Obama campaign is trying to “undermine” the voting rights of military members through a lawsuit filed in Ohio. The suit seeks to block state legislation that limited early voting times for nonmilitary members; it doesn’t seek to impose restrictions on service members.

In an Aug. 4 Facebook posting, Romney called the lawsuit an “outrage,” and said that “if I’m entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I’ll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.” He painted the court filing as an attack on the ability of service men and women to vote: “The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote.”

Conservative blogs and opinion pieces have also misrepresented the case, claiming in headlines that President Obama was suing to “restrict military voting.” A fundraising email appeal from a group called Special Operations Speaks — which wants to “remove Barack Obama from the White House” — wrongly says that Obama “deploys army of lawyers to suppress military’s voting rights,” claiming that “Obama needs the American military to not vote, so he has set out to make it as difficult as possible for them to do so.” But that’s not what the Obama lawsuit aims to do at all.

The lawsuit, filed by the Obama campaign, Democratic National Committee and Ohio Democratic Party in July against Ohio’s secretary of state and attorney general, asks for an injunction to block implementation of state laws that modified in-person early voting regulations. In the last presidential election, all Ohio residents — military and otherwise — could cast their votes in-person early up through the Monday before Election Day. But contentious legislation passed by Ohio’s GOP-controlled Legislature in 2011 limited early voting for nonmilitary residents, giving them a deadline of 6 p.m. Friday before the election. Military members and overseas civilians could still vote through Monday. Both parties have squabbled, with Democrats saying the law is a suppression of nonmilitary votes and Republicans arguing that they are just easing a burden on polling places and guarding against fraud. (Mail-in absentee ballots are not affected; the new regulations affect in-person early voting.)

Contrary to conservative claims, the Democratic lawsuit seeks to restore early voting “for all Ohio voters.”

"Romney blatantly misrepresents the lawsuit’s clearly stated goal to restore early voting for “all” voters. On Aug. 5, the Romney campaign’s legal counsel, Katie Biber, issued a statement that continued to wrongly cast the lawsuit as an attempt to curb military voting rights. She wrote that “the Obama campaign and the DNC argue it is ‘arbitrary’ and unconstitutional to provide three extra days of early, in-person voting to military voters and their families.” The lawsuit, however, argues for restoring the rights of nonmilitary residents, saying the state election law “arbitrarily eliminates early voting during the three days prior to Election Day for most Ohio voters, a right previously available to all Ohio voters.”

Biber goes on to say it is “commendable that the Ohio legislature granted military voters and their families this accommodation.” But that distorts the facts. Military voters and their families previously had this accommodation. What the legislature did last year was restrict early voting for civilian residents.

We received an equally misleading interpretation of the lawsuit from the attorney who filed the motion on behalf of the military groups. Kevin T. Shook of Frost Brown Todd LLC told us in an email: “We are unaware of any other case in which a political candidate, much less the Commander-in-Chief, has sued a state for trying to make it easier for members of the military to vote.” But the suit isn’t about making it easier for military voters, it’s about making it harder for others.

What Shook argues in the motion is that the suit “reasonably may lead” a judge to make it harder for the military — something the lawyers on Obama’s side haven’t asked for, and have told the judge they don’t want to happen. When we followed up with Shook about that, he said he was still concerned about a ruling that could set “a dangerous precedent that could jeopardize other laws making it easier for a military voter to vote.” But that’s no excuse for misrepresenting what the other side has said.

Some voters may well appreciate a discussion of the merits and ramifications of an equal protection legal argument. But what they got from the Romney campaign is a falsehood."

Now the question I posed to you was ...

"By the way , can you tell me why Black people should vote for a party that tries to suppress their vote...????."



Martin Harkless said:

Jack

I said both parties seek to find ways to mitigate the others base, ie we both know democrats try to suppress the military vote. Suppression then is a part of the game although it shouldn't be. However if republican ideas can help blacks more than democrat ideas in the long run, ie small business ownership, not just govt jobs, or self control and morals not abortions and free birth control, then that is why "Blacks should vote republican". If more blacks looked at the issues and voted for whomever lined up with their beliefs and needs then republicans would not see them as a sold out to "the second coming" of BO or Barry Sotello and this would be a moot point.

The problem with your question, is its foolish and the same question can be asked about the Democratic Party which suppressed the black vote for yrs, and more overtly.

Ok I'm done lets move on

MH

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